Sunny Hostin even went so far as to tell him, point blank, "you caved." The grilling began with moderator Whoopi Goldberg though, who went straight for the controversy at hand in the first segment with Schumer.

The Democratic leader in the Senate says his party must "fight smart" against the Trump agenda, arguing a government shutdown would have made programs more vulnerable to cuts from Elon's Musk's DOGE.